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Traudl Junge was one of the intimate
circle who were with Adolf Hitler
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at the moment of his suicide in the
bunker deep under Berlin in April 1945.
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Like Hitler's mistress, Eva Braun,
Traudl Junge was a Bavarian.
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To further her ambition to be a dancer
she moved to wartime Berlin.
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At first she worked as a typist
in the Reich Chancellery.
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In January 1943 Hitler decided
he needed a new private secretary.
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Traudl Junge was 22 years old.
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If I understand it right, he didn't
expect you to take down shorthand,
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but he expected you to type what he said
directly onto the typewriter.
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Can you remember the first time
that he gave you dictation in that way?
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I was so nervous that when he began to
speak I couldn't reach one typewrite.
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I looked at my paper
and it was just a foreign language.
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I was so desperate, but in this moment
there came in the servant and said,
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“Mein Führer,
there's a telephone call for you,
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Mr Ribbentrop wants to speak to you.”
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So I had time to recover.
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I was calm again and it went alright
when he dictated.
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I excused myself and said, “Beg your
pardon, the beginning is not right.”
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He said, “It doesn't matter, child.”
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And he was very friendly and…
pleasant.
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So I got out and had my work done,
my first work.
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Once a year
he made a sort of recreation time.
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We all go to the Berghof.
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I was prepared that
on the Berghof would be
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the first meeting for me with Eva Braun.
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She was the mistress of Berghof
and all people knew about her,
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but nobody talked about her
in headquarters.
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But in Berghof we had to meet her and
we had to accept her in the right way.
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There was Hoffmann often invited
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because he was full of stories
and anecdotes and jokes.
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I remember one time Hoffmann said,
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“Mein Führer,
I have to tell you a joke.”
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“I put you a question.”
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He said, “There is you and Göring and
Goebbels standing under an umbrella.”
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“Say, who will get wet?”
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Hitler said, “I don't know,
that's a stupid question.”
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“Who? I don't know.”
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And Hoffmann said, “Nobody,
because it's not raining at all.”
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Hitler said, “That's such a stupid joke,
I can't laugh.”
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“I don't understand. You get senile.”
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And Hoffmann said,
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“But, mein Führer, the man who told me
this joke is now in Dachau.”
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And Hitler was upset and said,
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“It's impossible.
How can you tell such a lie?”
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“It's impossible that he is in Dachau.”
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“Yes, mein Führer, he is.”
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“But he lives there.”
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“He has his flat there.”
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Hitler was very angry,
but laughing angry.
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He said, “Hoffmann, you get out.”
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So an oblique joking reference to a
concentration camp like Dachau was OK.
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But I think you told me
that any reference at all
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to what was being done to the Jews
was completely taboo.
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For instance what happened
to von Schirach's wife
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when she complained to Hitler about what
she'd seen on Vienna railway station
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with a trainload of Jews
who were being deported.
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Henny suddenly began to talk about
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her experience on the station in Vienna
when she saw a train full of Jews
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and… deported people.
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She said to Hitler,
“Mein Führer, it was an awful view.”
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“I was so very much upset
how they were treated.”
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“Do you know that? Do you allow that?”
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And he…
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…fell silent, absolute silent
and shut his…
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He let his mask fall down.
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The friendly smile vanished off his face
and he stood up and went to bed.
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Henny Schirach was never again invited.
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(Barlow) Let's turn now
to the period of defeat.
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Was Hitler worried by the suffering
of the people in air-raids?
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Did he see the destruction in Berlin
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when he returned to make
his headquarters?
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(Junge) No.
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He never saw,
he always tried not to see.
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He came when it was dark.
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The car searched for a way
which was nearly undestroyed.
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Hitler never had the feeling he must see
with his own eyes what the war was.
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He lost more and more
his sense of reality.
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But suddenly,
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on April 22, I think, yes,
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he came out of the military conference
with a totally stony face
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and dark, threatened eyes.
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He called us to come
to this little ante-room
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and he sent for Eva Braun
and the secretaries
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and for the cook who was still in Berlin
who cooked for him.
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Then he came in and said
with a monotone voice and so unkindly
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as we never have heard him speak to us,
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“Ladies, please pack your things
at once, you have to go to the south.”
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“The last ever plane
starts in about an hour.”
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Then was a silence.
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No, he said, “It's all lost.
There's no hope. You have to go.”
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And then was a moment of absolute
silence and we stood shocked.
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Suddenly Eva Braun made a few steps,
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went to Hitler and said,
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“But you know I don't leave you.”
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“I stay on your side. You know that.”
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“Don't try to send me away.”
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When we saw Eva Braun
deciding to remain,
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suddenly I heard my own voice
saying, “I will stay, too.”
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And the other girls did so, too.
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And we had a very strange feeling of…
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We talked without consciousness.
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(Barlow) How did Hitler react?
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Hitler had a look of… looked at us
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and suddenly there came a sort of
sad smile on his lips and he said,
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“I wish my generals would be so brave,
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as brave as you.”
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But I think on the same day
the Goebbels family moved in as well.
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Because they decided
to share the same fate as Hitler.
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Frau Goebbels came with her children.
Mr Goebbels came, too. And they…
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We cleaned their room,
which was full of some furniture.
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We made some place for the beds of
the children and put each on the other.
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Six little beds.
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They came and were very happy.
The children found it very exciting.
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They liked to be
in Uncle Hitler's bunker.
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They didn't know what fate
they were expecting there.
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But… Mrs Goebbels
knew what there would be and…
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I think it was a very hard time for her
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to not show her emotions
to the children.
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The children gave us
a little chance to be human,
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to be normal.
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Because the children needed a warmth
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and they needed to be nursed
a little and to be entertained.
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So we tried a little
to forget the reality
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and to do as the children
wanted us to be.
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And to give them a feeling of warmth
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and a good nest and so.
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But it was not easy to do.
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Perhaps you wonder
why we asked for poison, but…
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…if you consider that
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there came most appalling reports
from the East front
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what the Russians had done
to the German population,
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especially to the German women,
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in the villages and the towns
they had run over.
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We were very, very fearful
and we were very shocked.
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And we intended not to fall
in the hands of the enemy.
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And Hitler himself saw no other solution
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and no other way out
than to commit suicide himself, too.
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So it infected us a little, I think.
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It was very much macabre.
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Eva Braun asked for the best
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and the most painless method
to commit suicide.
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And Hitler said that would be cyanide.
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It affects very quickly.
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Some minutes
and you don't feel anything.
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Then he gave us capsules,
poison capsules.
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It was in a brass… Like a lipstick.
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It looked like a lipstick
in brass outside wrapping.
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And he gave it to Mrs Christian and me
and said,
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“I would like to give you
a nice present for farewell,
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but I think this one will be
of much use for you.”
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And with a regretting smile
he gave us this poison.
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What was his state of health now?
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It became more and more weaker.
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He looked like a shadow.
He looked emotionless.
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Very grey and pale
and like a broken old man.
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His… His attitude was bent down
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and his leg was lame and…
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His movements were very slow.
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He was not any more the dictator
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and the impressive,
fascinating man he was earlier.
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It was a macabre situation,
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thinking that Hitler himself
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had lost totally the interest
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and totally his activity
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and sat in his bunker as a broken man.
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And around him
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the preparation was encouraged
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and the fighters were encouraged
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by the presence
of this already nearly dead man.
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We wanted to know what he thinks
about the future of Germany.
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He said, “I believe there will not be
any more a National Socialist party.”
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“That… the idea will die with me.”
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“But maybe in 100 years or so
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there will rise another national
socialist idea like a religion.”
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The situation outside
built up to a climax,
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and inside of the bunker waiting became
more and more unbearable and…
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We steadily waited
for something to happen.
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Hitler came to me and said,
“Did you rest a little?”
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“Feel you fresh and feel you able
to have a dictation?”
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I said, “Yes, mein Führer, sure.”
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He led me to the next room
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and then he began his last will.
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Then he dictated to me at first
his private will
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and afterwards his political testimony.
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And I must confess that I was…
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I was at first in a very excited mood
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because I expected that I would be
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the first and only one who knows,
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who is going to know the explanation
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and the declaration
why the war had come to this end.
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And why Hitler couldn't stop,
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and why the development
and why the catastrophe…
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I thought, “Now comes
the moment of the truth.”
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And I was heart bumping
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when I wrote down what Hitler said.
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But he used nothing new.
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He came out with his… old phrases.
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He repeated his accusations,
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his… deranged swearing to the enemy
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and to the Jewish capitalistic system.
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And then he announced
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in the second part
of the political testimony,
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he announced a new government.
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And then I was like banged to the head.
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Because an hour before,
a day before, he had said,
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“All is gone, there will not be
a national socialist idea any more.”
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“Germany is totally destroyed.”
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And he urged me, he forced me,
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“Please, hurry up to write it in
typewriting and bring it in my room.”
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“And then join us.
I have married Eva Braun meanwhile.”
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It was another news for me,
which me very much surprised.
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I was not prepared.
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But there was still
quite a long time to go
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before Hitler actually
committed suicide.
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Can you tell me about the next day,
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when he lined everybody up
to say his final farewell.
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The whole day is not remarkable
without this one event
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when Hitler said farewell to me.
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I went to him, against him,
and he came towards me.
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And his face was already dead.
It was like a mask.
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He looked at me, but I had
the feeling he looked through me.
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He shook my hand and he murmured
something but I didn't understand.
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I couldn't understand
what he said at last.
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But Eva Braun was stood beside him
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who shook hands to all the others.
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She embraced me very heartily
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and looked at me with a little sad smile
and said,
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“Please try to go out of here.”
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“Please try to come to Munich again
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and give my regards
to my beloved Bavaria.”
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And then she…
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She and Hitler
shut the door and retired.
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And I had an absolutely need
for fleeing and I…
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I fled the stairs upstairs
on the next level
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and there I found
the children of Goebbels.
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They were lost, totally. They were
forgotten, nobody had cared for them.
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I tried to hold them back so they
wouldn't go down in the other part
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and be witnesses
of what was happening there.
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And so I took a book and read them
a fairy tale and gave them some fruit
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and…
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We… We entertained…
We had a conversation
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and with one ear I was always hearing
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for what happened in the next part.
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And suddenly there was a bang.
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There was a shot
and it was obviously within the bunker.
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Because the noises
of the outside shooting,
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we know how they sound.
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And…
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The little boy of Goebbels,
he noticed that there was another sound.
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He said, “Oh, that was a bull's-eye.”
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And I thought, “Yes, you are right,
that was really a bull's-eye.”
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I knew that was the shot
which made the end of Hitler
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and his National Socialist era
and probably also of us all.
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Erm, but…
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I sat a little shocked and silent
and then I saw…
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My head was empty.
I couldn't feel anything at this moment.
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Then I saw one of the adjutants
coming upstairs and he said,
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“Now I have fulfilled the last order.
The Führer is dead.”
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“I have burned his body.”
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Then he sat down by my side
and he was ash grey.
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His face was ash grey.
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Now that Hitler was dead, what was
the atmosphere in the bunker like?
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Suddenly we were forced
to decide for ourselves.
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We had… Every step until now
was ordered by Hitler.
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And suddenly we were given
our own lives back.
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But this life was…
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There was no concept for this life.
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We had our poison. That was the only
fixed step we had to do now.
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And…
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Suddenly I felt I must go out
of this bunker, this mouse trap,
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and go out in the fresh air.
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And then happened something
very strange for me.
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Suddenly, I saw the war
in all its appearance.
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There lay dead soldiers
and there were Russians
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and there were refugees and horses
and burning houses.
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And…
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It was suddenly
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such a concentrated picture of war
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and damage and defeat.
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I see it today like it was.
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I must honestly confess that sometimes
I think that what I am telling you
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is the story of another girl.
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I feel so totally changed
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that it always involves me again
if I am telling things of this time.